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Postby nano.toy.boy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:08 am
Lenovo has recently published new models of X1 Carbon with 10th generation Intel i5 and i7 processors:
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/th ... 2TP2TXX17G

Are you going to include these models in your next offer, in February? If yes, do you know the exact model and do you have price estimation?
Postby simon-ses » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:59 am
Hi

I expect that we will offer the latest models during the next Neptun wave. Details on the configurations will be published a few weeks before the sales wave and prices only shortly before the wave starts.

For an estimation I suggest you check out the archive on our website for the past offers. That way you can get a good idea what you can expect for the net sales wave: https://www.projektneptun.ch/en/support ... 9-archive/


Best regards,
Simon
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Postby nano.toy.boy » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:28 pm
Thank you for the response! I hope the new Thinkpad X1 Carbon with 6 core 10th gen. Intel i7 will be offered as a replacement for previous "ThinkPad X1 Carbon (7th Gen.)"
Postby Michael » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:45 am
Hi

If the prices for the new CPUs are reasonable and the availability of the parts is solid, we will most likely switch both models of the X1 Carbon 7th to Intel's 10th gen CPUs. However, the 6 core CPU will probably only be featured in our high end version of the X1C, due to the high cost of the part.

Best regards
Michael
Postby nano.toy.boy » Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:38 pm
Hello Michael,

With LPDDR3 (which ThinkPad X1 Gen 7 uses) there is almost no difference between i7-10510U and i7-8565U:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/918/In ... 8565U.html
except for a minor difference in a clock frequency.

On the other hand, the price difference between i7-10510U and i7-10710U is less than 9% (around $30):
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... 448,196449
but a 40% increase in performances:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... 3549vs3567

I don't know how the negotiation with Lenovo works, but I still hope i7-10710U will be available in a cheaper version as well :) The price could be compensated with other components (e.g. SSD size and screen resolution)
Postby nano.toy.boy » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:24 pm
Follow up. It seems that Lenovo has published more Intel 10th gen. models, so we can estimate the price difference of 4 core and 6 core CPU versions.

Here is a comparison of two Thinkpad X1 Carbon models with the only difference being CPU model:
https://i.imgur.com/QHB53n2.png
(Unfortunately, Lenovo doesn't give links for model comparison. The screenshot is taken on 1st December 2019 from US Lenovo website)

As shown in the picture, the price difference is only $15.

Also, instead of last year WQHD on entry-level X1C, I would prefer downgrade to FHD because of lower power consumption and it would help to compensate for the price.
Postby Michael » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:56 pm
Hi nano.toy.boy

Thanks for the input. We'll soon have our meeting with Lenovo where we'll get information on how the pricing structure looks for us. Since pricing for us can look a lot different than for end users, I can't yet say which CPUs will be featured in our upcoming devices, but, as usual, we'll try to get the most powerful hardware available for each price bracket.
We'll publish the specs for our upcoming devices around the end of January 2020.

Best regards
Michael
Postby nano.toy.boy » Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:00 pm
Hello Michael,

Thank you for considering it! Hope the pricing structure for Neptun will look similar to the prices on the Lenovo website. Especially because the 6-core version is now significantly cheaper than 4-core version (strange, but it may be related to production quantity):
https://i.imgur.com/0e1uUsP.png
(source Lenovo US website on 18th December 2019)
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